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Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building

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From a Stripe and Google executive, a practical guide to company building and scaling the most important resource it its people.

“Whether you are a new manager or a CEO, there are going to be moments when you feel alone and need help. Odds are, the advice you need is in Scaling People . You are going to pull this book off your shelf over and over!"
  —Kim Scott, New York Times bestselling author of Radical Candor and Just Work

A leader at both Google and Stripe from their early days, Claire Hughes Johnson has worked with founders and company builders to try to replicate their success. The most common questions she’s asked are not about business strategy—they’re about how to scale the operating structures and people systems of a rapidly growing startup.

Scaling People is a practical and empathetic guide to being an effective leader and manager in a high-growth environment. The tactical information it puts forward—including guidance on crafting foundational documents, strategic and financial planning, hiring and team development, and feedback and performance mechanisms—can be applied to companies of any size, in any industry. Scaling People includes dozens of pages of worksheets, templates, exercises, and example documents to help founders, leaders, and company builders create scalable operating systems and lightweight processes that really work.

Implementing effective leadership and management practices takes effort and discipline, but the reward is a sustainable, scalable company that’s set up for long-term success. Scaling People is a detailed roadmap for company builders to put the right operating systems and structures in place to scale the most important resource a company its people.

480 pages, Hardcover

Published March 7, 2023

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1,043 reviews1,017 followers
March 25, 2023
I have some mixed feelings here:

1. on one hand, CHJ (the author) is NOT an anonymous person - she's very experienced and has a lot of valuable knowledge to share - and this book only proves that
2. on the other hand, after getting familiar with the introduction, I had a specific expectation regarding the book - my impression was that it's a handbook for COOs at a slightly higher level of abstraction (teams, org. structure, company level); I KNOW that the title doesn't make such an impression ("scaling PEOPLE", "tactics ...") - as I've mentioned the expectation was based on the initial section (intro)
3. while, in fact, the book is all about everyday work with other people - hiring, developing teams, feedback & performance mechanisms, PIPs & handling firing/layoffs; I'm not saying it's bad (or not useful at all), but I remember CHJ claiming that if you look for basics (for managerial position), you should look somewhere else
4. to be absolutely frank - the work done here is very good; I do agree with pretty much all the advice, and it's all phrased in a clear, comprehensible way - but I was a bit disappointed, as I expected to learn much more from a person like CHJ - instead of bread'n'butter, a bit more about strategic thinking or building succession, creatively growing others, etc. - but in the end, I've got some lessons that albeit valuable, can be already learned from many other sources

Let's summarize - it's a good book, but it doesn't stand out in the "row" of similar ones. I didn't have any "a-ha" moments; there was just one mental model I applied to my knowledge base (pushers VS pullers when it comes to top performers). Solid 4/5.
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35 reviews16 followers
April 15, 2023
The right audience for this book are managers/ leaders with a certain level of experience.
Although many tactics were not brand new to me, the power of CHJ’s book is to put them together as a guide and give practical examples. Also her own experience is inspiring in itself and I found myself thinking that’s the type of leader I would want to be. I did have a few highlight moments such as the concept of pushers/pullers performers.
Negative point is related to the e-book version: many examples sections are written in a lighter grey font which made it unpleasant to read at times.
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47 reviews3 followers
June 15, 2023
"Scaling People" is a book by Claire Hughes Johnson. She's been at Google and Stripe, so she knows a thing or two about leading people.

The early part of the book is the best for me. It talks about self-awareness, being a leader versus a manager, and something she calls the "operating system" of a company. It's not rocket science, but she lays it out in a way that's easy to understand and useful.

She talks about self-awareness, which is basically about knowing your strengths and weaknesses as a leader. It's not just about "I'm good at this" or "I suck at that" either. It's about understanding how your style affects the people you're leading, and how to adapt when you need to.
Then she gets into the difference between a leader and a manager. It's a distinction a lot of people don't really think about, but it's super important. A manager is all about making sure the day-to-day stuff gets done. They're in the trenches, making sure the team is on track. A leader, on the other hand, is more about setting the direction and the vision for the team. They're the ones looking at the big picture and steering the ship.
Finally, she talks about the "operating system" of a company. This is all about the processes and structures that make a company/team run smoothly. It's about things like how decisions get made, how communication happens, and how people work together. Johnson gives some practical advice on how to set up these systems, and how to tweak them as your company/team grows.
Then there's a part about hiring and recruiting. It's alright, but doesn't really bring anything new to the table.

I believe the book is kind of aimed at people who already have some leadership experience. If you're new to being a leader, you might be better off sticking with "The Making of a Manager".

So, all in all, "Scaling People" is a decent read. It's not gonna blow your mind, but it's got some useful advice and it's definitely worth a look if you're trying to grow your team!
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391 reviews66 followers
May 21, 2023
Claire has done a phenomenal job of distilling two decades of company building experience into insights and tactics that are easy to apply in different contexts. The content is greatly valuable for anyone building a high growth company, of course, but my favourite part of the book was how much Claire’s personality comes through. She’s an amazing leader that cares deeply about the people around her while being able to deliver on ambitious goals that only generational companies can achieve. And she does this with a refreshing modicum of humility and earnestness 🥰
“Say the thing that cannot be said” is my new favourite slogan 😄

Go get the book! Stripe Press has another winner on their hands.
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681 reviews97 followers
May 19, 2023
Крепкая книга для COO по менеджементу людей, команд, в меньшей степени проектов и процессов. Вряд ли будет долгосрочной классикой, так как это скорее набор общеупотребительных практик на сейчас. Пока же читать стоит, если вы менеджер
121 reviews1 follower
July 16, 2023
Akin to a business operations textbook. Claire Hughes Johnson is the COO of stripe and has led all sorts of shapes and styles of people across multitudes of teams. She also has specific expertise navigating founders, businesses going through rapid change, and organizations going from 0-1.

I feel like I’ve been searching for this book for a decade. So much of navigating startups is stumbling through the dark, implementing processes from prior work experiences that don’t fit cleanly or ignoring the organizational challenges until they become so hairy that they threaten the company’s growth. Claire leads through a full course of concerns/growth opportunities/management/working with others/influencing etc.

What’s even more amazing about this book is how her values are so incredibly intertwined to her management style. I have enormous admiration for someone who treats their own strengths and weaknesses as a product and then can actually articulate what that means for a working style and person values. Holy shit what a thing to aspire to do.

This book is a life changer for people driving through scaling organizations who know where they want to go but don’t know how to get there.
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1 review
March 29, 2023
Actually an effective book on scaling an organization that they don't teach you in b school. Actionable, well written girl boss Claire Johnson may have fucked up by not going public in 2021, but she is getting that bag with this book. Would recommend to anyone building an org that has PMF and 30+ people. The workbooks are bit of a meme, but I could see some decent upper level HR profs using them.

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726 reviews15 followers
November 4, 2023
ANS (accepted not started) and BIS (butts in seats). Yes, these are actual standard company recruiting terms.

gubernatorial campaign

“I’m not going to tell you which processes you should put in place. But I will tell you that you need them, and you need them sooner than you realize.” When the person asked why, I said, “You know why playing a game is fun? Because it has rules, and you have a way to win. Picture a bunch of people showing up at an athletic eld with random equipment and no rules. Someone is going to get hurt. You don’t know how to play, you don’t know how to score, and you don’t know how to win.”

“What I think you’ve taught me most is how important it is to state the obvious.” Yes, it felt like a backhanded compliment. But what I think she meant is that I strive to make implicit structures and beliefs explicit.

We had promoted a lot of people into management internally, which is an eective way to reward high performers and build company scaolding, but we hadn’t invested enough in giving people the resources and the support they needed to be the most eective managers they could be.

a great manager can change someone’s trajectory. They can push employees to make career choices that leave them much more fullled. The role is both operational and managerial. To have a job that focuses on just one of these elements—delivering business results or producing personal impact—is already a big task. But to work in a job that does both?

The hardest parts of company building and management are done in private: designing your planning process, deciding who gets promoted, planning a reorganization, reducing the scope of a person’s role.

You can’t sit in on another manager’s 1:1s. You don’t get to observe how your colleague handled that termination conversation. You’re not privy to how your peers give their reports dicult feedback. You’re asked to y a very complicated aircraft, but you never get time in the practice simulator.

I believe that most people don’t neatly compartmentalize their home and work lives.

Nearly all of this material was created within Stripe.

introvert or extrovert? my favorite litmus tests is: Do you talk to think or think to talk?

DiSC (which stands for dominance, inuence, steadiness, and conscientiousness), 10 as well as the well-known Myers-Brigs Type Indicator (MBTI), 11 which helps identify 16 dierent personality types and is based on the work of Carl Jung. My personal favorite is Insights Discovery 12 because it’s more nuanced than the MBTI yet easier to understand

When I think about whether a capability is innate or not, I ask myself: Is doing this thing well as easy as breathing?

strengths can also be weaknesses

Teams become mirrors of their managers.

I’m still doing this. I put it in my calendar and call it ‘15minute thinking and meditation.’ I ask myself: If I start over today, what can I do dierently? Did I make any mistakes? Can I improve tomorrow? Sometimes I write down something important. But most of the time, the thinking is enough.” —Eric Yuan, founder and CEO, Zoom

Why don’t managers say what’s actually on their minds? be wary of over-filtering.

Fred Kofman explains why it’s so hard for us to say what we’re thinking. It’s because every conversation has three components:

• The “it”: the task being discussed
• The “we”: the relationship between the people having the discussion
• The “I”: your personal stance in the conversation

Everyone understands what it feels like to be worried or overloaded. If you say, “We didn’t hit our targets,” you haven’t oered any comment on the gravity of the situation. On the other hand, if you say, “We didn’t hit our targets, and I’m worried about the impact that this will have on our team and on the business,” the team will immediately understand that there’s a problem that needs fixing.

It’s more eective to explain why you feel that way. So rather than “The team is performing terribly,” you might say, “My impression is that the team isn’t communicating well right now, and I think deadlines are being missed as a result. Do you agree, or could it be something else?”

“Leadership is strategic, and management is more [about] implementation. Leadership is about setting direction, knowing where you want to go, convincing others to go with you, and explaining why you’re going there: setting standards, setting expectations, setting tone. Management is about implementing that: getting the processes right, getting the people right, getting the teams right.”

Great managers don’t initially have to be great leaders, but the more senior a manager becomes, the more important it is that they also develop leadership skills. Eventually, managers need to be able to set a vision and direction for their team—and potentially make the team uncomfortable with a bit of heat—or they’ll hit a ceiling in their careers.

When I take another of my favorite self-awareness assessment tests, the Big Five Personality Test, 17 I score as a classic great manager, high on conscientiousness and agreeableness. But great leadership often requires a person to be disagreeable and demand more.

for every team I manage. They each have the same components: clear missions, stated goals, metrics that matter, similar meeting structures, and weekly and quarterly cadences.

business frameworks, like Porter’s ve forces and the four Ps of marketing

Stripe’s mission became to increase the GDP of the internet.

Bill Gates once said, “Early on, Paul Allen and I set the goal of a computer on every desk and in every home.

Google’s mission: “Organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful.”

“The bigest mistake I made [early on] is we did not focus on writing [down] the company’s business principles. To delegate to other leaders, we need to write down our principles on hiring, on ring, on performance, on security, on many things.” —Eric Yuan, founder and CEO, Zoom

Stripe, early drafts of the principles were written by employees. Patrick reviewed the early work, then drafted his own version.

trajectory-altering impact

“Every day, you all choose where to put your time. My goal is to give you the information to make the best decision.”

for example, 10 engineers to 1 product manager, or 1 human resource business partner to 250 employees.

With an eye toward cash burn rate, founders want to be careful about adding more people. And when they do, they want to hold those people accountable for an output commensurate with the additional people power.

Google would devote 70 percent of its resources to the core business, 20 percent to emerging products, and 10 percent to research and development for future products.

John Tukey said, “Far better an approximate answer to the right question, which is often vague, than an exact answer to the wrong question

Pyrrhic victory: a victory won at such a great cost that it was not worth the battle.

“what’s on the truck” revenue

Good communication is about providing timely and honest information, including being willing to acknowledge mistakes. People forgive mistakes, but they lose trust when information is hidden, false, or misleading, or when leadership says something but doesn’t follow through.

Dunbar’s number. At around 150 people, it becomes harder to remember everyone’s name, what team they’re on, and what they’re responsible for. by the time your company hits 150 people, you should have an internal company website, clear communication guidelines, and policies for what information gets stored, through what channels it’s communicated, and what information teams are responsible for maintaining. You should also formalize a means to deprecate out-of-date content. company wiki. Plan to communicate important information at least three times using dierent mediums or channels.

Examples of operating cadences include:
• Annual planning processes
• Quarterly business reviews
• Monthly all-hands meetings
• Biweekly 1:1s
• Weekly snippets and team meetings (with metrics reviews)
• Daily standups

I’m a big fan of experimenting with systems and processes. If you do experiment with your processes, make sure to:
• State how long you’re going to try the process for. • Determine when you’ll check back in to see how things are going.
• Set your evaluation criteria for whether to continue or revisit the process.

We aren’t wedded to how we currently do things

We will also deliver “table-stakes” security features

Is the metric relative, not absolute? (For example, instead of “Increase the number of users by 1,000,” explain the relative growth: “Increase the number of users by 20 percent, from 5,000 to 6,000.”)

Leadership understands what you need to accelerate and produce outstanding results.

In the early days, Stripe got creative about building its hiring pipeline. Because we built for developers, we were able to hire a few early users of the product, namely the ones who gave the most and best feedback. But soon enough, we added new tactics to our eorts to educate and dierentiate. These ranged from the founders posting on Quora or Hacker News and answering questions on Internet Relay Chat to writing blog posts on the Stripe site and using Twitter to share them.

One way the early team drove trac to Stripe and to our job postings was a competition called Capture the Flag: a series of coding challenges that created a buzz and, best of all, presented the company with participants who might be great job candidates.

once you’re past your initial team—say, 10–20 people—you should think about building a recruiting team with an experienced leader. Still, a recruiter should never be a substitute for a hiring manager, meaning the individual hiring for the role. There needs to be a tight partnership between the person responsible for the recruiting experience and the recruiting process and the person who will ultimately be accountable for the new hire’s work.

It’s natural, as a company gets larger and larger, to keep specializing and sub-specializing until recruiting becomes a silo, letting individuals on a team focus on their jobs and not on interviewing. But I would caution against this tendency, because eventually people become divorced from learning how to represent the company— the culture!—and from feeling responsibilities for their colleagues’ selection and success. hiring is not a side job but a core responsibility for everyone in the company.

Growth from 100 to 400 people happens quickly if you have real traction. I sometimes call hyperscaling “riding the dragon”: You need your dragon riders—your fearless leaders—before the beast takes o to still greater heights.

If your company is scaling, it helps to remember that your primary goal is to work yourself out of a job. I used to have a test at Google: When my team and I got an email from a leader with a question, I would refrain from writing back immediately and wait for someone else on my team to respond. I viewed it as a failure if I was the only one who could answer the question or take action.

“You have to give away your job every six months.” That’s especially true for leaders, particularly founders and CEOs.

One of my favorite stories from Google’s early days is about how the founders hired Omid Kordestani. Omid was Google’s 11th employee, and he built its business operations from the first employees and the rst dollar in revenue to over 12,000 employees and over $20 billion in revenue.

what’s the dierence between accounting and strategic nance?

Whether you promote from within or hire externally, you’ll want to be clear on three things:
• What is the work to be done?
• What does “great” look like?
• How will we assess people against that benchmark?

Stripe charged for its product from the beginning and monitored the P & L closely to avoid costs far outstripping revenue growth. The founders began taking a series of meetings with potential heads of sales, as well as some COO types.

One excellent concept I inherited when I joined Stripe was the idea of a business operations team: a team staed with folks who have a mix of consulting and entrepreneurial backgrounds, who thrive on new situations and on solving problems as Stripe scales. The members of the initial “biz ops” team, as we call it, were our first salespeople, and many of them were also our first product managers. Really, they were whatever Stripe needed them to be at the time—which is a lot like the COO job. Before you hire a COO, consider building a biz ops team and hiring a head of business operations who can proxy some of the COO’s responsibilities. Doing so can help you scale and figure out what you really need in a potential COO. Your business operations leader may even become your COO—I did join Stripe as chief of business operations, after all!

As the manager of a potential new leader, there’s one more element to consider for your rubric: complementarity with your existing leadership team. Some companies have all leadership candidates complete work style or personality assessments. Although we haven’t gone that far, Stripe did have our rst CFO candidate take the Insights Discovery assessment I described in Chapter 1, which presents ndings in a color wheel made up of blue, red, yellow, and green segments. I had an inkling that this hire would round out our team’s color wheel, adding someone in the blue quadrant, which tends to represent more introverted, analytical, and task-oriented people.

The more senior the role, the longer and more expensive the recruiting process: Expect to be searching for at least six months for senior leaders. After all that work, only about 25–50 percent of outside hires, especially senior ones, are successful. Whenever possible, start with the talent you know, develop them, and promote from within.

as your company gains traction, it will inevitably need to build a recruiting function. Most likely, your recruiters will be focused on the higher-volume hiring rather than on acquiring new leaders. The recruiters themselves are likely to be early in their careers and less experienced with leadership hiring. For senior roles, most earlier-stage companies rely on search firms. I’ve had mixed results with that path.

What he said, wistfully, stuck with me: “Don’t assume the folks who got you here will get you there.” Be constantly vigilant in answering this question: Do I have the talent I need now and for the next two to four years for my team or company to be a success?

Seek to have candidates only meet a maximum of eight people in the process. Studies at Google have demonstrated diminishing returns for additional interviews. If the role is more entry-level and very well understood, this could be reduced to four or ve people.

There are reasonably good training materials on interviewing and interviewing frameworks out in the market, such as the STAR (situation, task, action, result) method.

“It was my idea, but the credit goes to the whole team.” The less positive version of the answer is something like “I just did what everyone else decided.”

Although I find that at least one résumé-based question is a good way to break the ice and gauge the candidate’s experience, you’re better of getting them thinking about situational (“How would you handle this scenario?”) to behavioral (“Tell me about a challenge you overcame”) to strict competency (“Describe the last Excel model you built and how you approached the design”).

Once your company is big enough that leadership can no longer meet every candidate, I recommend establishing a program similar to Amazon’s Bar Raiser program. Bar Raisers are an exclusive group of interviewers who are considered good stewards of Amazon’s standards and culture.

Many companies have adopted something akin to the Bar Raiser program. At Stripe, for example, we had an “Elevate” interviewer who joined interview panels for other teams. Elevate interviewers were high performers and some of our best interviewers—they tended to conduct more interviews and had honed their skills.

We looked at historical feedback in our applicant tracking system, or ATS, which includes “denitely,” “yes,” “no,” and “not sure” responses on candidates. If we did hire the candidate, we looked at whether the interviewer’s assessments of “denitely” or “yes” compared favorably with how those candidates ultimately performed as Stripes.

I am increasingly of the belief that jobs should have set salaries, and that all compensation motivators should exist solely as bonus and equity vehicles.

“Would you say this person is in the top 50 percent of folks you’ve worked with?” If they say yes, ask, “Top 20 percent? Ten percent? Five percent?”

• Where do you see this person in three years?
• When was the last time you didn’t see eye to eye?
• What are some ways you’ve seen them be helpful to others?
• Tell me about a time when you coached them on something.
• How would you rate the candidate on a scale of 1–10? You can’t say 7!
• What’s a skill you’ve seen them grow?
• What advice do you have for me as a manager to help them be successful in this role?

An offer letter is a critical document, and any stock plan associated with an oer is a legal agreement. Sending an offer with the wrong salary or equity amount can be trust-destroying—or worse.

your best bet is to keep up the momentum and answer them promptly. As a sales leader once told me, “Time kills all deals.”

Introducing new leaders to an organization is like introducing a foreign substance into the body—it’s no wonder that companies anxiously try to avoid “organ rejection” of new leaders.

do the work to communicate the change—the promotion!— thoughtfully by telling those aected by the change rst and then making a wider announcement.

it’s best practice to run an internal selection process if you have even the slightest sense that there might be more than one potential candidate. The folks who participated in the search but were not selected may be disappointed, but they’ll also appreciate the chance to be considered.

make sure you message the internal hire thoughtfully. Explain what you were looking for, the process you ran, and why the person you selected emerged as the right choice.

Companies should seek to design the new-hire onboarding process in a way that feels true to the business.
• This should include: The “why” of the company, including the mission and the story behind it
• The “what” of the business, including current priorities and goals
• The “how” of company behaviors, including how people work together and the operating principles

I strongly believe that company leadership should take part in onboarding new hires, perhaps in a monthly session where leaders talk about company values and operating principles and, better still, share stories of those principles in action.

the entire curriculum should be thoughtfully designed to represent the fastest possible ramp to success for new hires.

essentially, translating the company operating system to the team level so that the new hire immediately understands how their work ladders up to the overarching plan.

You may have agreed or disagreed with the decision to hire the new leader. No matter the circumstances, it is crucial that you commit to their success. Everyone loses when a new leader fails. By denition, they have signicant responsibility at your company, so their failure means a failure for your division.

Ask them or discover what their most eective learning style is. Everyone learns dierently. It might be reading documents, watching presentations, whiteboarding sessions, chatting 1:1, or asking lots of questions.

If your new leader is also your new manager, it can be tricy to deliver dicult feedback when you’re just starting to build trust. In this case, it can be appropriate to give the data points to your manager’s manager and let them handle delivering the feedback.
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29 reviews
February 29, 2024
Excited to refer back to this throughout my career. Definitely more of a textbook-style book, but listening made it much easier to get through.
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1,432 reviews1,177 followers
June 27, 2023
How refreshing! This is a management trade book that thoughtfully addresses management and organization, concedes that management is difficult, and is not trying to sell a product for training or consulting purposes. The rating may by a bit high compared to the full range of books to read but for this genre, it is outstanding and these sorts of books should be encouraged. I was surprised when the Bartleby column in The Economist featured this book, but I certainly agree after working through it. The author is a veteran of top management at Google and Stripe, where she is currently a director and advisor. As a result, this book is especially relevant for technology-based firms or firms in high growth areas more generally.

The book is not one long narrative but a collection of topics that will be important for a manager today. By the way, she also include topics that are frequently omitted from more conventional book such as career development concerns, recruiting and onboarding, and other training related issues.

The Intellectual problem with any management related book is that as a topic it is both general and abstract on the one hand and highly specific on the other. The are some general ideas about management, organization, teams, work processes, and such that are worth knowing and thinking about. At the same time, any management situation si highly specific and concerns what is to be done here and now, by me or my colleagues, in this situation. That makes the problem one of combining the general and abstract principles at stake with the fine-grained reality of specific situations. The failure to do this is perhaps the major reason by management and business trade books either fail or underperform on a consistent basis. Ms. Johnson’s book excels at combining general points, with vignettes from her own experience or those of her acquaintances, along with a large group of small surveys, forms, checklists, etc. that readers may want to remember. It is quite striking.

By the way, “Scaling People”, talks about organization and team design - how to actually build and think about small and larger structures so that they can serve as tools for pursuing a strategy. This is very unusual in business trade books.

Not everybody will find the book interesting. If one is really interested in managing in growth situations, however, this book is a “must read”.
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21 reviews1 follower
May 17, 2023
Some great insights, among them:

Great leadership requires starting with self awareness.
Say what you don’t think can be said.
Teams get the job done, not individuals.
High achievers can be pushers that have ambition and a vision but can turn off team mates, and pullers who take on any task and will get them done on time but can burn out silently or end up taking all the good projects in the org.
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608 reviews
June 2, 2023
Its a handbook for any manager/leader. While mostly concerning management day to day , it was a good reminder to operate from first principles and lay an operating framework as a foundation for strategy and tactics. Although none of it was novel concepts, it did underscore many of the ways I have become sloppy-from running 1-1s to large meetings. Claire is a powerhouse in my industry and admire her style and trajectory.
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118 reviews4 followers
April 3, 2023
This book delivers on its promise: it's a highly tactical guide to the operations and processes and mindsets necessary to effectively grow a company and its people, drawing on her experience as a Google VP and as Stripe's COO.

It's a beast of a book (almost 600 pages), but she notes in the introduction that it's meant as a reference book rather than to be read straight through. For instance, I just finished skimming the hiring chapter, where she goes through every nuance of the hiring process, including nearly 60 pages of exercises and templates that you can use at your company, rather than starting from scratch. The same applies to performance management, unblocking and escalation, and even how to go about firing somebody.

As somebody who focuses on the inspirational and strategic parts of leadership, I appreciate that this book lays out the processes and operations that enable a company to run effectively while it grows. Check it out!

Disclaimer: I was fortunate to work with Claire for several months at Google back in 2012, when she was brought in to try to turnaround a struggling business unit (Google Offers, a Groupon competitor). Even though that business ultimately (and deservedly) failed, I still tell people about her clarity and focus as a leader; she first led a process to identify three "metrics that matter", and then held monthly all hands where she shared graphs of those metrics, and told everybody "If you are not working on improving one of these numbers, please come see me personally". I loved working with her for those few months, and have been excited to see her continued success since then.
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218 reviews
October 18, 2023
This book supposed to be a tactical level / "how-to-do-it" book rather than the usual, concept/theory based ones. That's the best aspect of this book as such books are a rarity.

However, the content itself, while very comprehensive and based from the author's practical experience, rather falls short.

Firstly, the author's own experience. Having just worked for Google and then Stripe doesn't give you the right to dish out advice to others. Both these companies are from very specific industries and at the very specific stage of their lifecycle. The author, at the very least, should have mentioned that these advices might not work for non-IT/non-startup companies. The author's experience is very limited as a leader and neither she has professional / academic qualifications to dish out advices. She did interview a few leaders including for example someone from the Economist magazine and from different industries. But many of these people have themselves limited leadership experience and much of their advices only expose their own inexperience.

As some with international business and leadership experience, I find this book to be rather useless. It is like reading a football training manual for the Premier League written by a minor league manager (to quote a football/soccer example).
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95 reviews5 followers
November 16, 2023
Scaling People by CHJ is an insightful guide tailored for managers of managers, offering strategic advice on steering a company to success by prioritizing its most valuable asset: its people.

With experience at Google and Stripe, CHJ provides practical wisdom and examples for hiring, managing, and retaining talent in the face of rapid growth. This book delves into crucial aspects of running a company, covering founding principles, operational procedures, hiring strategies, team building, and performance metrics.

It stands out as one of the most practical business books, offering real-world advice applicable to high-level positions, especially in the tech industry. While the density may not appeal to everyone, the content proves relevant for those in top management roles within substantial or fast-growing companies.

CHJ's emphasis on process resonates throughout the book, underscoring the importance of structure for success. The inclusion of exercises and worksheets adds a hands-on dimension, providing tools for defining organizational foundations and effective hiring processes.

If you are at director-level or above, this book is a gold mine of good information. If you are not at that level, this book will probably put you to sleep. It is a dense compendium of information.
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58 reviews26 followers
September 1, 2023
A concise handbook from the ex-COO of Stripe on seeking, managing, and cultivating good teams in high-growth environments. The book is part exercise part lessons-learned from building Stripe and their unique hiring processes, part tactical exercises e.g., interview qns. I enjoyed her distinction between being a good manager (culling roadblocks, trimming processes) vs being a good leader (vision, empowerment, goalsetting). And that you need both in orgs, sometimes not mutually exclusive.

As I start to shift into managing people there were a few takeaways that stuck w me:
1. High degree of self awareness is a nuanced differentiator as a leader (knowing your gaps, taking accountability)
2. Understanding unwritten parts of culture is a skill (observation and adaptation)
3. A company-wide operating system is key for alignment and speed (e.g., in knowledge systems, differentiating between evergreen, wip, and one-time documents) and she goes into some tactical details of what this could look like.

"Self-awareness has three components: understanding your underlying value system, identifying your innate preferences—your work style and decision-making tendencies—and being clear about your own skills and capability gaps"
63 reviews4 followers
February 23, 2024
"Scaling People" is a book that presents a unique challenge for me to evaluate due to its targeted audience. The insights and strategies outlined within are specifically designed for organizations that have grown beyond the startup phase, catering to companies with 30 or more employees. Given this context, my ability to fully appreciate and apply the book's content is currently limited, as our company has yet to reach this particular size. Nevertheless, I am intrigued by the prospect of revisiting "Scaling People" once our company crosses this threshold, to potentially leverage its guidance during our growth phase.

I also harbor some skepticism regarding the author's background and the extent to which her experiences may have influenced the perspectives shared in the book. I'd describe the author as "one of the lucky ones," having been part of two startups that, in my opinion, were poised for success irrespective of the effectiveness of their operational and people management practices. My personal experience working at Google has provided me with firsthand insight into how a company's foundational business model—such as Google's advertising platform—can drive its success despite internal challenges, including suboptimal management decisions and internal politics.
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231 reviews10 followers
December 8, 2023
This was exactly the book I'd like a COO to have read to lead and scale a company from 0:1 phase to 1:n phase. Startup ecosystem is very focused on the first phase of taking an idea to Product Market Fit but lot less on the Scaling up part. This book stands out for its direct and actionable advice, drawing from real-world examples and experiences.

Seasoned leaders and connoisseur of similar business books may not find the actual readings useful or may even be repetitive, I enjoyed the content in one place and also providing worksheets at the end. I'm not sure when I personally will use this but it looks like a good resource to provide or reference in times of need.

The book does lack good strategies for working with remote teams which has been a challenge in recent years. But despite that I think this is a good resource.
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228 reviews4 followers
April 22, 2023
As the title suggests, this is a very tactical handbook for how to manage organizations and the people who make them up. Hughes Johnson provides frameworks for understanding, motivating, and supporting employees and managers as companies scale and change over time.

I found this book to be an interesting set of insights into how to think about mid-sized and growing organizations. A lot of the tactics described make a lot of sense to me, though I am not a manager or organizational leader (but am someone who has been managed). I wish that there had been more injection of Hughes Johnson's own insight or philosophies or personal experiences/empirical experiences/ideological stances outside of content covered in other management books, as I do think that this book felt more like a manual.
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8 reviews
August 29, 2023
such a practical and useful book for managers and leaders. i heard an interview on a podcast with claire and bought the book the same day. my copy is already marked up with notes, post its, and i've geeked out with others in my company about how tactically amazing the book is. i've copied her advice on everything from quarterly goal setting to writing PIPs for underperforming employees. she's helped me turn operational management of my group from something that i procrastinated and felt overwhelmed by to something that i look forward to spending my time and energy to improve. thank you claire!
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32 reviews8 followers
November 14, 2023
Quality literature on operations is hard to find, which only increases the value of "Scaling People" by Claire Hughes Johnson, former COO of Stripe. This book is an invaluable resource for operations executives, presenting a comprehensive roadmap that encompasses everything from initiating a new role to nurturing and advancing talent, conducting performance evaluations, and more. With a specific emphasis on people management, its industry-agnostic approach broadens its applicability. It even offers a complementary workbook, making it a practical and indispensable guide you can bring to work.
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71 reviews7 followers
January 20, 2024
Labai neblogą knygą apie žmonių vadybà. Kaip pasiruošti samdymui, kaip struktūruoti komandą, dėlioti tikslus, suvadybinti pokyčius, planuotis resursus etc. Ne basicas ir ne filosofija, o aiškūs universaliai pritaikomu taktiniai metodai. Tinka dirbant su 5, 50 ar 500 žmonių.
Intro yra labai gerai knygą atspindinti analogija - dailės kritikai kalba apie įtaką, įkvėpimą, užslėptas mintis ir t.t. Dailininkai kalba, kur pigiau įsigyt dažų ir skiediklio. Tai čia knyga apie dažus ir skiediklį. Jei vadovaujat komandai - paskaitykit. Ir dėl savęs, ir dėl kitų.
20 reviews
March 30, 2024
This book is highly tactical as per the title. I'll definitely keep on bookshelf as reference guide. Highly useful for junior and mid managers. Perhaps less so at senior level as focuses more on 1 on 1 or 1 to a team as opposed to org structure etc.


My rating system is as follows:
1 - Stopped reading before completing as didn't intrigue me enough (therefore rating incomplete)
2 - Completed reading but did not enjoy
3 - Enjoyed but not enough to want to keep on bookshelf
4 - Enjoyed and want to keep on bookshelf
5 - I'm actively telling people how great this book is!
13 reviews
April 15, 2023
This is a great book on operational frameworks. There could be a sequel that covers scaling organizations? To successfully implement a company's strategy, Claire Hughes Johnson's operational framework is essential. The only caveat I found for myself was that the book's description of hypothesis testing in the performance feedback cycle felt more like hypothesis validation and didn't leave enough room for iteration.
373 reviews12 followers
October 24, 2023
Probably the best business book I’ve ever read—actionable, tactical advice about getting the most out of people as both a manager and a leader. It’s aimed at tech startups but the advice is broadly applicable. Got it on Kindle from the library but will buy a hard copy to have for reference—it includes all kinds of templates and reference guides. Heard the author on Lenny’s Podcast and was pretty sure I would love the book, and it did not disappoint.
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73 reviews17 followers
December 31, 2023
Great book! Very practical. I can't remember the last time I made so many notes and thought of so many people I'm going to recommend this one. 4/5 only because it is not relevant for everyone.
I would recommend it to every people manager, Operations and People person. Great learnings coming from a female in tech learned in the trenches of Google and Stripe. Highly recommended for startups and scaleups.
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40 reviews1 follower
February 22, 2024
This is one of those highly underrated business books (another one being The Hard Thing About Hard Things).

Johnson isn't just a business writer without real life experience, she helped scale Stripe and Google, which is no picnic. What impresses me most is her ability to articulate complex business strategies in a straightforward AND engaging manner. She's an excellent communicator; I learned much about people management and the creation of sustainable growth models.
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40 reviews
March 16, 2024
A decent summary of management best practices for tech companies. Nothing novel or earth-shattering though, and the writing gets a bit too verbose and boring after a while — definitely not an cover-to-cover read, more a reference manual to get ideas for specific topics. The generalization from very specific examples and the constant humblebragging does get tiring by the end.

Get the hardcover version if you can — it’s a beautifully typeset, really nice book, it’s a joy to behold.
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131 reviews29 followers
May 6, 2023
I wasn't the target audience for this, so take my review with a grain of salt.

I think this would be *extremely* helpful for growth-stage startups (or any 20-plus-person org). Tons of actionable advice from someone who has done it herself. Similar to High Growth Handbook.

If you're not running a medium-large org, then it'll be less applicable.
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