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When we are baffled by the insanity of the “other side”—in our politics, at work, or at home—it’s because we aren’t seeing how the conflict itself has taken over.

That’s what “high conflict” does. It’s the invisible hand of our time. And it’s different from the useful friction of healthy conflict. That’s
good conflict, and it’s a necessary force that pushes us to be better people.

High conflict is what happens when discord distills into a good-versus-evil kind of feud, the kind with an
us and a them. In this state, the brain behaves differently. We feel increasingly certain of our own superiority, and everything we do to try to end the conflict, usually makes it worse. Eventually, we can start to mimic the behavior of our adversaries, harming what we hold most dear.

In this “compulsively readable” (Evan Osnos, National Book Award-winning author) book,
New York Times bestselling author and award-winning journalist Amanda Ripley investigates how good people get captured by high conflict—and how they break free.

Our journey begins in California, where a world-renowned conflict expert struggles to extract himself from a political feud. Then we meet a Chicago gang leader who dedicates his life to a vendetta—only to realize, years later, that the story he’d told himself about the conflict was not quite true. Next, we travel to Colombia, to find out whether thousands of people can be nudged out of high conflict at scale. Finally, we return to America to see what happens when a group of liberal Manhattan Jews and conservative Michigan corrections officers choose to stay in each other’s homes in order to understand one another better, even as they continue to disagree.

All these people, in dramatically different situations, were drawn into high conflict by similar forces, including conflict entrepreneurs, humiliation, and false binaries. But ultimately, all of them found ways to transform high conflict into good conflict, the kind that made them better people. They rehumanized and recatego­rized their opponents, and they revived curiosity and wonder, even as they
continued to fight for what they knew was right.

People
do escape high conflict. Individuals—even entire communities—can short-circuit the feedback loops of outrage and blame, if they want to. This is an “insightful and enthralling” (The New York Times Book Review) book—and a mind-opening new way to think about conflict that will transform how we move through the world.

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Amanda Ripley is the New York Times bestselling author of The Smartest Kids in the World, High Conflict, and The Unthinkable. She writes for The Atlantic, Politico, The Washington Post, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal, among other publications.

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Simon & Schuster Audio
  • Publication date ‏ : ‎ April 6, 2021
  • Edition ‏ : ‎ Unabridged
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1797123785
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1797123783
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 9.6 ounces
  • Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 5 x 1 x 5.75 inches
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Amanda Ripley is a New York Times bestselling author and an investigative journalist for the Atlantic, Politico, the Washington Post and other outlets. Her books include HIGH CONFLICT: Why We Get Trapped & How We Get Out; THE SMARTEST KIDS IN THE WORLD--and How They Got That Way; and THE UNTHINKABLE: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes--and Why. Her work has helped Time win two National Magazine Awards. She writes about human behavior and change.

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Customers find the book informative and thought-provoking, with useful summaries of the main points. Moreover, the writing is highly readable and well-organized, and customers appreciate how it is interwoven with interesting real-life stories. Additionally, they consider it a must-read, with one customer noting how it provides insights into personal conflicts.

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"...The author makes a lot of interesting observations such as; we have group belongings, we form factions, we need belonging, giving people two choices..." Read more

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  • Reviewed in the United States on May 8, 2024
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    I love this book! The key reason is that for the past 40-plus years I have been a student, teacher, author, and mediator or manager of conflict in Christian organizations. So much in this book affirms the approach and system I use. In places it goes beyond and provides new learnings.

    A second reason is this book has great, insightful case studies interwoven within the book that makes for a great reading experience. It addresses various geographic, cultural, and organizational settings, and the involvement of a diverse set of people in good conflict and high conflict.

    A third is that a foundational case study in the book is an attorney who developed a mediation system for clients in conflict. Often marital conflict when he served as the third-party mediator. But when he got involved in second-party conflict as a primary participant, he could not follow his own advice.

    I have experienced that. It is humbling to admit I can handle your conflict, but I have a tougher time handling my own. However, the gap between the two has lessened over the years, and I am grateful.

    It is one thing which allowed me to stay engaged with my Christian denomination of heritage as it went through decades of high conflict and is still experiencing it now.

    Fourth, I love the references to the historic conflict between the second and third presidents of the USA—John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. The only two signers of the Declaration of Independence who became president of the USA.

    I have read and enjoyed immensely biographies and early USA histories that have highlighted their conflict which followed them into retirement from government service—lasting at least two decades.

    In their final decade of life, a mutual friend got them started in a reconciling correspondence with one another where they were able to resolve many of their differences with a long view of the birth years of our country.

    An irony of their mutual respect that rekindled and grew is that both of them died on July 4, 1826 on the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

    Finally, it suggests one of my favorite techniques which is often helpful when people decide they want to have their conflict managed by a third party. “Give people more than two choices. It doesn’t fix everything, but it reduces the power of the binary. Complexity doesn’t collapse into us and them quite so easily.” (95)High Conflict vs.

    Good Conflict? Or Unhealthy Conflict vs. Healthy Conflict

    High Conflict: This is “the mysterious force that incites people to lose their minds in ideological disputes, political feuds, or gang vendettas. The force that causes us to lie awake at night obsessed by a conflict with a coworker or a sibling or a politician we’ve never met.” (3)

    High conflict splits families, organizations, countries—and in my case churches and denominations. It often involves attorneys, courts, law enforcement, and violence. At the time of this writing, we are experiencing it on college and university campuses throughout the USA.

    Normal rules of engagement do not apply in high conflict. Few people even understand the rules of engagement during high conflict and have the emotional and intellectual skills to handle it.

    Third parties with appropriate authority must intervene in the right way at the right time in high conflict. Even so, many situations are so messy that a positive outcome is not guaranteed.

    “When conflict escalates past a certain point, the conflict itself takes charge. The original facts and focuses that led to the dispute fade into the background. The us-versus-them dynamic takes over. Actual differences of opinion on health care policy or immigration stop mattering, and the conflict becomes its own reality.” (8)

    “Wishing your opponent will finally see the light is a fool’s errand. It will only lead to heartbreak. Counting up the other side’s wrongs is a hobby that can last a lifetime. Obsessing over the next election is a delay tactic. Telling people to reject hate and choose love will not work. Because people swept up in high conflict do not think of themselves as full of hate, even if they are. They think of themselves as right.” (19)

    Good Conflict: This is typically healthy conflict that looks at issues from various perspectives, while recognizing the different perspectives and figuring out a creative way forward. “It’s a force that pushes us to be better people.” (3) It also helps families, organizations, countries—and in my case churches and denominations to have a better future.

    Rules of engagement that can be learned by people involved in good conflict will typically work. A third-party to help with the process will enhance the opportunity for these situations to move forward with relative ease, and new learning for how to deal with diversity of viewpoints.

    “In healthy conflict, there is movement. Questions get asked. Curiosity exists. There can be yelling too. But healthy conflict leads somewhere. It feels more interesting to get to the other side than to stay in it. In high conflict, the conflict is the destination. There’s nowhere else to go.” (26)

    In Closing

    Numerous great techniques are presented in the book. Wonderful and insightful—even dramatic case studies are presented. All of which make me very grateful for this book.
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  • Reviewed in the United States on May 4, 2025
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    Amanda Ripley. What would Chernow say about the lady who works all night with all her might to get it right? "Missing from view is the determined you."
    Not for the gold
    Its the goal
  • Reviewed in the United States on July 26, 2022
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    This fascinating book clarifies some of the problems with conflict that we often face, and get trapped in, in personal and political spheres. As the writer is a journalist, the strength of the book is in its storytelling. Ripley, partly inspired by family drama she witnessed growing up, has spent her career reporting on serious conflicts around the world, so she has learned how to probe her subjects and readily make insightful connections based on her observations. Across a range of examples, Ripley makes a convincing case that while conflict is necessary and good, we should be on guard for the signs of "high conflict" where each side digs into its position. It is especially difficult, her examples strongly suggest, to see when we, ourselves, are dug into an unreasonable position, especially when the other side is too. It is very hard to find the humility and confidence to be the first to blink.

    Some aspects of the book are underdeveloped, while at other points I felt Ripley was too ready to accept her subjects' narratives at face value. I don't understand why she chose to begin the book with the story of Mark Lynas, an environmentalist who "converted" from being a violent anti-GMO activist to a vociferous promoter of GMOs. Lynas doesn't seem to have stepped back from high conflict, but rather to have switched sides, which is not necessarily the same thing. Perhaps his story would have been better cast as an example of a natural-born “conflict entrepreneur" who, while changing his mind, also finds a way to channel his outspokenness less destructively.

    I was also surprised that the book's only example of an alternative to adversarial politics was the leadership selection and deliberation practices of B'nai B'rith, a Jewish charitable organization. While its methods are interesting, ultimately it is a self-selected group of co-religionists with no political authority. More relevant to politics, it seems to me, would be the practice of convening juries, including the jury trial system we are all familiar with, but also recent experiments with citizen juries chosen randomly to deliberate public policy. These deserve wider coverage, and I felt it was a missed opportunity for Ripley not to have included them.

    Finally, the book (or perhaps a sequel) could grapple more with the specific problem of unequal power relationships and strong ideological commitments, which seem pervasive around the world and especially difficult to unwind. When your opponents in an ideological high conflict have overwhelming power, your decision to give up high conflict can look a lot like a craven abandonment of your own core beliefs. This issue could have been explored in the story of the FARC paramilitary who gave up her ambition to participate in the creation of a Marxist utopia so that she could move to Bogota and raise her child. Apart from granting immunity to FARC revolutionaries who voluntarily entered mainstream society, which, no doubt, was a bold act that demonstrated great humility, it is unclear whether the Colombian establishment had to make any changes at all to the social and economic structure that FARC members wanted to topple. The FARC members, on the other hand, had to admit that their dream was unachievable and join a society they felt was deeply immoral. For some people, that is too much to bear.
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  • Ronald E. Pizzo
    5.0 out of 5 stars What an interesting read
    Reviewed in Canada on December 26, 2021
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    I work with teams in conflict. This book put words to the things I do to help teams resolve conflict. For me, this was a moving read.
  • Massimo Boldracchi
    5.0 out of 5 stars Che scrive anche della Fede bahai. Fatto raro e molto apprezzabile
    Reviewed in Italy on October 7, 2021
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    Tutto perfetto
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  • E. Coleman
    5.0 out of 5 stars Peace on earth!!
    Reviewed in the United Kingdom on June 1, 2021
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    This book is getting well reviewed in the USA...and is starting to here in the UK. I only knew about it as someone I respect in a zoom group I am part of was going to read it, and recommended we might too. So I am.

    It takes you through true conflict stories, and how they are resolved. If you like the stories that is a bonus. It also talks a little about the Baha'i Faith which the author had not come across before...she talks about it as to her it seemed to offer an excellent way to consult and to elect governing bodies.

    I am a Bahai...I totally agree with her....but I would I guess! Reading the stories in the book I find alot of the common place attitudes highlighted alien to me (I find myself thinking ...you can't do that!)....but in part this is because I have been a Bahai for over 30 years now. This morning I was in the last section of a zoom about our way of consulting....half those there were not Bahai's. Can I suggest anyone that would like to know more about this to phone up their local Bahais and ask if they know of anyone conducting Ruhi Book10 Unit 2 on Consultation. We welcome a broad range of beliefs at our gatherings...and as this one is about consultation...let's put it to the test!?

    As a bonus I find the book dyslexia friendly...cream paper, black print.
  • S K
    5.0 out of 5 stars Gives very good insights into conflicts
    Reviewed in India on April 6, 2023
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    This book gives very good insights into good, low as well as high conflicts. It gives you ways to identify conflicts within you and around your community. And ways to get out of these conflicts and how to stay out of them.

    This book will be useful to anyone who wants to improve themselves.
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    5.0 out of 5 stars Need conflict
    Reviewed in India on November 17, 2022
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    Conflict management is an art,to get the skill we need to involve into conflict.Before taking any action against any person we need understand the others feelings and listen their points that is the main concept of this writer best.It is easy to write non fiction and get close to the readers hearts but author succeeded in that aspect.